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Hi, Maddie.
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Hi Elyssa.
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How’s it going?
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Not too bad. It’s pretty weird to call you Elyssa. We all everyone we know calls you E that I feel like in a formal setting, I should call you, you listen.
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I mean, that’s what I usually introduce myself as but you usually introduce me as E,
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so I’ll redo that. Hi, E, how are you? What’s happening?
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You know, just finishing up my millions of final projects I have.
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Oh, yeah, senior itis is really kicking in so bad this time of year.
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Definitely. Well, I’m excited to get to sit down with you and talk about a lot of different things. So I know we’ve put together a little we’ll have discussion topics. Because for background, he and I have been best friends for about four years now. We were roommates together in
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Fletcher Hall.
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It’s by the I am building.
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Nobody ever knows where Fletcher is. But it will always hold a place in our hearts.
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Most definitely. And we are very different people. And we’ve come from very different places. And we’re just excited to get to learn from each other and have some interesting and difficult conversations. And we’re excited for everyone to get to hear them.
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So before we spin this wheel, we’re gonna start with some introductions.
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Yes, he you kick it off. Tell me about where you’re from, because I only know Trenton New Jersey, but apparently there’s a whole other trends out there in Michigan. Yeah, so
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I’m from Trenton, Michigan, is a small town about 20 minutes south of Detroit’s my graduating class was just over 200 people for reference. It’s honestly a very bland town where I’m from. I mean, there’s not a lot of diversity. Everyone’s pretty much just Christian. I was raised Greek Orthodox. So that’s always played a really big part in my life, like our freshman year.
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Oh my gosh, yeah, I
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missed out on the first welcome weekends. Because I was busy baptising my god child.
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And I just could not believe you know, I had this roommate and she was like, sorry, I’ll be back in a couple days got to go baptise a kid.
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Yeah, my both of my roommates were very confused. Nonetheless. I, what did you think of me, then? You know, I
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didn’t know what to think I I’m for background on me. I’m from Princeton, New Jersey. I was raised Jewish. So I have plenty of friends that are Christian and Catholic and lots of different religious backgrounds, but I really don’t know anything about it. So I didn’t really know what baptising means. I taught from your social media profiles to you know, you had these wholesome pics and you had photos at a Greek camp. And when I showed my mom, her best friend from growing up was Greek. And she was like, Oh, I know exactly what cam that is. So you know, I had a little bit of background and knowledge on it. But I definitely was surprised and didn’t know what to expect from you in that sense.
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Tell us a little bit more about your town and where you’re from. For sure. So
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I’m from like I said Princeton, New Jersey. And he was laughing because she knows I love to talk about Princeton. I love where I grew up. Go Tigers, tigers. Yes. My parents both went to Princeton. And they loved it so much. They move back. My mom now works at the university. So the town is full of a lot of faculty and staff. And it’s definitely you know, it kind of has an Ann arbour feel to it. It’s a big, liberal bubble for sure. And it’s not a huge town, but it is sizable, is the kind of town where we have a great public school system yet there are three private schools that half the town goes to. So that kind of tells you a lot about the money and the that environment.
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So I’m from Michigan, and I’m from New Jersey,
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I say pop and I say soda. So let’s dive right in.
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There’s a lot of different topics for us to cover in this episode. So Maddie, why don’t you spin the wheel and see what we’re starting on first?
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Okay, here we go. Politics. Oh, boy. We’re starting big I guess. Okay. So for me, at least, I never questioned where I was on the political spectrum. You know, I still remember the first election i can remember in kindergarten with john kerry. And I think I was in kindergarten. Maybe my brother was I’m not sure. But I remember celebrating that. You know, it was just always clear. Like, I was born a Democrat, like I’m a Democrat. Even before I understood politics. I was proudly telling people I was a Democrat.
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How did you even know that you were a democrat?
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100% because of my parents, you know, they they’re active politically and they are passionate about different issues. And it definitely wasn’t polarising. I have a lot of family members that are very fiscally conservative too. So definitely, like politics were a weird subject at family events, but it was never a question in my mind. Where I personally fell. And as I came to understand social issues on my own, that definitely didn’t change. But I’m curious to hear, you know, what was that like for you? Like, what are your some of your first political memories?
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I mean, I don’t know if anybody else did this. But in our elementary school, we would have a little have elections of our own to see who would win, we’d have the voting booth and everything like
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little popularity contest?
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Well, no, with the actual president. Yeah, so every election cycle, that’s what we would do. And I remember, for one of the bush elections, I don’t even recall which one it was, but I voted for bush. And I don’t know I’ve, like sometimes I didn’t think about it at the time, but I think back on it, and it’s because my dad was very vocal, but my mom was not vocal about who she would vote for. So that really influenced me as a child, but I never really thought about, like Democrat or Republican until I was in high school, I think in my AP government class.
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And I feel like before I said, you know, things were never polarising, at least in my household when we talked about this, but then enter Donald Trump in the most recent four years. And I think that’s when a lot of things change for people in that, you know, the definition of Republican really changed and shifted 100%.
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I mean, from my experience, like, you know, that was a horrible experience for me and my household because, well, first of all, my town is, I would say, majority Republican, we would have Trump parades, Trump parades on boats, and Trump rallies on the side of the streets like, you wouldn’t see that same thing with Biden. Meanwhile, in Princeton,
Unknown Speaker 6:53
I can tell you exactly the one house that had all the Trump posters in front of it like one house, that’s it, and it technically wasn’t even in Princeton, it was like right before the highway. So that’s like, just shows how opposite. My sister actually started donating $1, to Black Lives Matter, every time she saw a trump poster, or blue Lives Matter sign and she, she couldn’t do it anymore, because it just got so expensive. Because there were so many signs in our town that were either Trump or blue lives matter. And I think I’m I’m very aware of sort of the biases at play in my life. And that I’m, I’m a sociology major, which I think I can say confidently a lot of the social department is more liberal leaning. And the classes are very open minded, and sort of the sociological imagination by nature is very open to hearing and expressing all beliefs and thoughts. So I definitely positioned myself in that way when I got here. How do you I mean, I know you’re a policy major, and you probably didn’t come into college thinking that’s what you would be. So tell me about that. No, I
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definitely did not come in thinking I was a policy major. But I was in AP Gov in high school when Trump got elected. And I think that’s kind of where everything changed. And I got just super into politics and coming into college I no idea what I wanted to do. And it was just such a different makeup coming to Ann arbour from Trenton even though it’s only 45 minutes away, the makeup of the town is just totally flipped from my town, being conservative to this liberal town and open my eyes to just different viewpoints.
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And for me coming to Ann arbour, the town’s itself wasn’t that much of a flip. But coming from New Jersey and always blue state to Michigan just opened my eyes to a whole new set of viewpoints in a whole new part of the country, and meeting people like yourself who have these new perspectives and different experiences for me that I can learn a lot from. So being in Michigan and getting to vote in Michigan in this last election was such an eye opening experience, and was really helpful in getting to expand that perspective.
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It’s definitely nerve wracking to say the least, but time’s up for this section. So let’s spin the wheel again.
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Let’s spin it.
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The next topic is Black Lives Matter. So before we get into this topic, I just want to acknowledge that we are two white women, talking about it and trying to just talk about our experience and in no way educate anybody about it.
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Yeah, we’re just discussing our learning and unlearning and what this process has looked like for both of us and what our participation in the movement has looked like. I think we started talking about this with each other, probably when, back in May of last year after the tragic death of George Floyd No, we both participated in peaceful protests in our towns and neighbouring areas. I participated in a very powerful eight minutes and 46 seconds of kneeling on the ground and recognising what was happening and just listening to speakers and listening to experts. And I’ve taken steps towards educating myself more. So what did you participate in?
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So first, I really tried to educate myself about Black Lives Matter. And I bought a boat bunch of books like white rage assata, the hate you give, I was just trying to educate myself on the movement. But I also did participate in protests in and around my town. But those protests did not go on protested against. Yeah, so we were met with anti Black Lives Matter protest, and more specifically, like blue Lives Matter, or all lives matter protests. There was no violence in it, but it still was really hurtful. And they just tried to make it seem like these other voices did not matter. And they didn’t have and they weren’t being impacted at all by the what’s happening in the United States right now.
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And correct me if I’m wrong, but you have family that’s both in the police line of work, but also other members of the family that are black. So how did that were there conversations in your family? around these things?
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Yeah, there were so many conversations on both sides of the family. And there were more that I liked to participate in than others, because I don’t like to be yelled at. And I would definitely get yelled at when I talked to my dad side of the family, which had have the cops in the family. So those were definitely harder conversations. And I tried to read all these books to educate myself, but also relate this information that I’ve learned to other people. But with my mom’s side of the family, so my cousin is half black. And when he grew up in Trenton, which is our town, I remember a story, my aunt told me that he was just sitting on the curb with one of his friends and cops came by and they drove by again. And eventually, they drove by and stopped. And they said, What are you guys doing? It’s after curfew. And to preface this, like, you’re out after curfew all the time. Like I go out all the time, riding my bike after curfew when it’s pitch black outside, like it’s not an unusual thing to do if you’re just sitting outside on the curb? Is this a town curfew? Like what curfew? Are you referring to? like kids under the age of 18? or something?
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I’m thinking of like those? It’s 10pm? Do you know where your children are, like, adds on?
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No. But anyways, back to the story. They ended up taking him to the police station. And when they were there, they got his wallet and everything. And he had my aunt’s like sam’s club card or Walmart card in his wallet because he bought food through that. And they took it and they called My aunt to come pick him up. And she was like, he was a block away from her house that was just kind of crazy. And then after my cousin left, they called My aunt back and they were like, Oh, we also have your card that he stole from you. And she was like, I gave that to him. He did not steal that from me. That’s what he uses to buy his own food. So I had a lot of jaw dropping moments and discussions like this with my aunt about the experience my cousin had growing up in the same town I did and how different those experiences were from mine. So I it was jarring to say the least,
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I’m sure. Thanks for sharing that. I know it’s not easy to talk about these things, especially when it’s directly involved with people you love.
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I mean, it’s not easy, but I think these are the difficult conversations people need to start having more.
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So obviously we could we could talk about this topic for hours by itself. But given you know our identities and our backgrounds, I think it’s better we amplify other voices. I know both he and I really enjoy the podcast still processing which is put out by the New York Times. So if you want to give that a listen, we definitely recommend it. But with that we will spin the wheel and keep talking
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All right, this next topic is Michigan expectations. So I guess this is just about what we expected coming to the University of Michigan and what we thought it was versus what it actually turned out to be.
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So where did you apply when other schools I love asking people this?
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So I applied only to only schools in Michigan, literally only Michigan schools, I applied to Michigan State University, Wayne State, a couple small colleges here, Michigan Tech, that would have been interesting. Where did you apply?
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I applied to such a crazy array of schools. I mean, I had no idea where I wanted to go. I applied to Tulane, and Wisconsin, which are kind of similar vibes to Michigan, but then also applied to Brown, and a couple of California schools. Really, my main goal was to leave New Jersey. So we had definitely different goals in mind as we applied to schools.
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Oh, I feel like there’s also just a different college makeup or like, where people go from your high school to college? Is it usually outside of New Jersey? Or do people usually stay there?
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Yeah, I would say it’s mostly outside of New Jersey, I mean, there’s tonnes of kids that go to Rutgers and tcnj and some of the other smaller schools in New Jersey. And then I know I have a lot of friends in schools in Pennsylvania, a lot of like the nescac schools like Williams, and Middlebury and Boden, schools like that. So a lot of these smaller liberal arts colleges, we always had, like a spread in the newspaper at the end of the year, that was like a map of the US, and it would put little stick figures where everyone was going to be. So we definitely had a lot of people all over the country. So it was not like, I mean, any high school will have a heavy concentration in their state it’s coming from but it definitely was more spread out and sort of embarrassing, but also interesting fact is that my high school sends more kids to Princeton University than Rutgers itself. And that’s just a result of like, everyone’s parents working at Princeton, which is pretty crazy. Um, yeah,
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I think I could count on two hands, how many people go out of state from each graduating class in my school. And I mean, I can also count on two hands, how many people come to the University of Michigan from my school, which is quite interesting, because we are from Michigan, but I think it’s just how small my school is. And it’s not super competitive, the education isn’t the best. So that could definitely have an effect.
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So that’s the one surprising thing, or people find surprising, while me is that like, I don’t know, other people from New Jersey here, really, I was one of maybe three kids or my high school that came here. And I have now met so many kids from, you know, Livingston and Cherry Hill and these other heavily populated cities that that send a lot of kids to Michigan, but I, because of this, I knew one girl older than me here. So I really had no expectations. You know, I knew that football games were super fun. And I would go to the mall if I came here. And I knew that there was a good liberal arts college with an LSA that like would allow me to, you know, try a bunch of different classes and pick a major because I wasn’t someone that came to school knowing exactly what I wanted to do. So I love that about it. And I also knew Ann arbour felt like a bigger version of home. So that that was kind of my big draw, but I really came in with zero expectations. Yeah, I
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mean, pretty much the same for me. Like I didn’t know a lot of people that came here. My godparents both came here. But my God, father’s 10 years older than me. So he had a very different experience than I did. But I was pretty much just excited to not know everybody that went to my school, and just to be in this bigger environment that I can find a place in. So I was I was really excited just to go to a new town and not start over, but just meet a bunch of new people and have a good time and get educated.
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And to me, I the one thing I was pretty sure about coming in was, Oh, yeah, I want to rush I want to join Greek life. It felt like the easiest way for me to immediately meet people. But I know I remember that when you got to school, you weren’t sure you were gonna rush. And we were roommates and we had one other roommate and the three the two of us were very sure that we were going to and I remember like the first time we ever dressed up we like we’re taking photos of you to add to your profile for rush. Like I don’t Have any photos to add? So it was definitely like a harder decision for you. And I think, you know, gradually we’ve like merged our friend groups, even though we were in different sororities, we’ve taken a step back from that life, but it was definitely a big part of our first year together. Yeah, I
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definitely was. And I remember you guys were so sure you were rushing. And I was like, Okay, I guess I’ll do it just to do it. And I can decide later, if I actually want to be a part of that social circle. I ended up having a great time with it. But I don’t think it really makes or breaks, right? It’s ingredient defined my college years. Like, I definitely would have still had a great time in college if I didn’t rush,
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right. And I think it’s easy now to see that many flaws in that system. But it was a way for us to meet more people, especially given that we were living in Fletcher Hall. Let’s not forget that we were set out isolated from all the other freshmen who was definitely helpful in that way.
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Well, I think it’s time to spin the wheel again.
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Next
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topic is religion.
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All right, well, speaking as the first Jewish person that you Lissa has ever knowingly met. Um, I’m Jewish. And I was raised very culturally Jewish, not as much, I guess spiritually is the way to say it. I went to synagogue, I live like a block from my synagogue. So that was always a part of my life. I celebrate all the events with my family of Passover, Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur War, and I, I didn’t even realise the the Jewish population I was walking into at Michigan. So that was something I’ve definitely learned a lot about.
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Now. You and me both.
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Yes, I at least understood what I was walking into. He was on the other hand, just all of a sudden his, her parents are worried she’s gonna marry a Jewish boy.
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They’re not so much worried. They’re just actually more convinced that I am Yes. All of my friends are Jewish. That’s who I surround myself with now, and I’m not complaining at all. So I was raised on a completely different spectrum. I was raised Greek Orthodox, and very spiritually. I went to church every Sunday, even if we had sporting events, we would still be at church. My mom was very adamant about that. And we went to Greek camp over the summer, and I even went to this Greek camp in Greece, that was very spiritual. And we went to monasteries. And we had to cover our shoulders and our knees in church. It was that sort of thing. But I would say my town was very Christian. And like Maddy said she was the first Jewish person that I knowingly met. And she was actually very shocked to hear that because Princeton is pretty Jewish. Yeah, I
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would say like, it’s still majority Christian Catholic, but definitely a big Jewish population. I can confidently say that in middle school, most Saturdays, I had a bar Bat Mitzvah to attend. And those Mondays after would always be you know, who’s wearing the sweatshirt who’s wearing the T shirt, you
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probably have no idea what I’m talking about No idea. And I’m so sad. I’ve never attended one.
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Well, my bar mitzvah was candy themed. And my T shirts had got candy on it. It was super cute. Everyone had it? You know,
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were you like the popular kid at school that
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week. I actually wasn’t and I can like still remember that this one girl, like two weeks before my bar mitzvah started talking to me and like really trying to you know, kiss up to me just to get an invite to the bar mitzvah. And I was like, Look, you should have started doing this a lot sooner. The invites are out. I’m very sorry. But it was you know, you did feel very special when everyone was wearing the shirt. Although someone like me, I hate attention like that. And I just felt terrible. So I didn’t really enjoy that element.
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Understandably, my brother actually worked at our bar mitzvah one year. I don’t know if it was bar Bat Mitzvah. Ours for a boy bought is for a girl. Okay. I still don’t know which one it was. But he was working one before and they had these crazy games. And it was so elaborate. And they just spent so much money. And I just found that crazy for this one birthday party.
Unknown Speaker 24:32
Yeah, well, it’s it’s definitely like a huge deal. You know, you’re, I can say that a lot of people didn’t fully understand like a lot of my friends just thought it was kind of a party with free food and that souvenir at the end of it, but it really there’s a lot of work that goes into it. And you know, my half Torah, which is the longer thing you sing. I don’t know how to define it. But it’s all Hebrew and you’re reading tropes in Hebrew. So you have to sing in certain ways. Come in front of the whole synagogue on a Saturday morning. Mine was like 14 minutes long my half Torah, and I still have my Torah portion itself memorised. And then on top of that, you get sort of a little sermon of your own about what your Torah portions about. So there is a whole side of it that people don’t really fully see. So there is a lot of work. But that being said, there’s also a lot of money that goes into celebrating it for sure. A fun fact is the Jewish like, lucky number is 18. It’s called Hi, everyone gives you checks for your BB bomb. It’s fun. It’s always like 1836 54. So it’s always in multiples of 18.
Unknown Speaker 25:34
That’s super interesting. I did not know that.
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Enough about Jewish bar moments as though Let’s spin the wheel again. Let’s get talking about something new.
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All right, it looks like we have a high school makeup for this one.
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I think we’re both gonna be unfortunately able to relate about this. I know, my high school lacked a lot of diversity. And it really started being a conversation. right around the time I was graduating and leaving.
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Yeah, mine was very much not diverse at all. And I think last year, yeah, I want to say 2020, there was a petition to teach more diverse courses and make better history curriculum to be, I don’t know, just better educated and less white washed about the history of the United States.
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Yeah, I know, two girls in my graduating class actually went on to write an entire textbook about diversity and cultural understanding and inclusion. And they travelled around the US and wrote this really incredible book. And there’s now a course being taught at BHS. About this textbook, it’s centred around it really impressive. Last I heard the class wasn’t mandatory, it was an optional elective, which, you know, I think is
a little bit problematic. I think if you’re going to have a course like this, everyone should be able to take it but I’m sure and during it into the curriculum is harder than it sounds. Although I don’t know, I don’t want to make excuses for them. I think they can make it happen. There were definitely a lot of controversies right before I graduated within our high school that was really calling them out. And not to say this wasn’t happening, even before this, but the conversation really started picking up right when I left.
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So what events made the conversation pick up?
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Well, for one, when I was a junior in high school, there was a party, where some of the kids started playing Jews, verse Nazis, beer pong, which, as you can imagine, is extremely problematic and not okay. And following that game, someone posted a photo of it on Snapchat, and of course, people screenshotted it, because Why are you such an idiot to post it on Snapchat, I don’t know. Sorry, I’ll get a little heated about this. But basically, there was a blog post written about it by a very strong writer, who did an excellent job calling out the lack of compassion and understanding from our classmates. And a lot of these kids thought their lives were over, they weren’t going to get into college, they were, everything was over for them, you know, this was the end of the world because their faces were in the photo. So it caused a lot of drama in the moment. And you know, they were all white boys, they all turned out fine. They’re all doing whatever they needed to be doing. But what bottom line was that this started a string of blog posts calling out the high school for things that weren’t okay. And a lot of interesting conversations came about a lot of call outs, you know, the story did get national attention. So it really became a turning point in terms of the school calling out in action, and what they can and can’t call out based on what happens on school grounds. It’s, it’s a whole complicated thing. But I think there’s, while the progress should have happened a long time ago, at least there’s conversations and small things happening. But of course, when you get high school kids and their parents, especially in such a town like mine, there’s a lot of extra hoops to jump through.
Unknown Speaker 29:03
So I know the story gained national attention, but how did your peers or high school or town react to it,
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there was a lot of mixed emotions, you know, I was actually more connected to it than I’ve let on and that I sort of the, the writer of the blog that sparked all the attention was someone I was very close with, and with someone I supported and doing it. And so a lot of different kids that were in the photo were coming to me, begging me to help them to get them out of it, to which I just didn’t have any sympathy for and that even kids who were my friends, you know, made this mistake and needed to face the consequences of it. So there was like a whole side of people and parents and students who were supporting the kids in the photo saying This isn’t fair. This shouldn’t ruin their future. It’s a stupid mistake, and they should learn from it, but they shouldn’t have to suffer all this. And then there was the other side that I fell on and that my parents supported me and that was you know, everyone should basically Consequences of something like this. And it’s not like we’re not being taught about the Holocaust. Fortunately, there is education and curriculum around. This isn’t like, Oh, I didn’t know. Everyone knows you just you don’t make jokes about it. You know, it’s that topic that like, you don’t do it. So I just that was it was definitely showed a lot of true colours to see that see the different reactions in the town. All right. I don’t want to get too heated about this right now, you know, can’t relive the past. But let’s keep talking about high schools. I feel like one of the biggest differences probably was like, big sports teams. I’m trying to think we were not a football school. I don’t know if you had football. We were not a football school.
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Other schools around us. I guess we’re pretty decent. But definitely our sport was hockey. We’re just a big hockey town in general. For some odd reason. I don’t even know how it started. But it’s just always been that way. Like we hold so many of the state titles for hockey. And I grew up skating. I think I learned how to skate at three years old. Oh, my God. Yeah. And my brother plays hockey. He’s played at all of his life grew up going to all his games and then the high school hockey games and the Red Wings game. Some
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of my favourite freshman year memories are watching next hockey games.
Unknown Speaker 31:19
Oh, yeah. I would drag you to me. They were fun.
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And then we have You’re such a big lacrosse school, honestly, really? Like I felt like all the girls, all boys. Everyone played lacrosse.
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But I feel like that’s such a big East Coast thing. Definitely. Not a big Michigan thing. Yeah,
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I played field hockey. Did you even have a field hockey team? We
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did not have a field hockey team. We did not have a lacrosse team. What are some of the other odd sports you had?
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I’m trying to think I had a friend who played squash.
Unknown Speaker 31:50
We definitely we didn’t have a high school. I was gonna say that’d be very nice. Yes, that would.
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Alright, one more time, we’re going to spin the wheel. And the last topic we’re doing is pronunciation.
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Oh, boy.
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Oh, boy. So for the next portion. I’m going to prompt Eve. And she’s gonna fill in the blank with some words that I think she says very funny.
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I’m not ready to be made fun of yet, but I guess I never AM.
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All right, what do you call the person who birthed you, Mommy,
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mommy. She says mommy.
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I say mom. All right, next one. All right. Next one. The app we send photos on for set time intervals. That’s a social media form.
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Oh, Snapchat,
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Snapchat.
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How is that different? She
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says Snapchat. All right. What’s my name? Maddie. Oh, you’re trying No, no. Maddie, Maddie.
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Alright, March Madness is a basketball tournament and I will stand by that forever. tournament.
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Alright, last question. Most important question of the podcast. What do you eat your pizza with?
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ranch.
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Wrong. Is that wrong? Is there a right answer?
Unknown Speaker 33:16
Nothing. You should just eat your pizza how it is because that’s how a slice of pizza is meant to be. And with that,
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I am clinking my glass of pop.
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And I’m clinking my glass of soda.
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And we are saying farewell to this first episode of soda or pop. Thanks for joining us.
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We had a great time. I love talking to you. Love you Maddie.
